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A [[bid]] to host the [[1986 Worldcon]] in [[New York]].  Members of the [[bid committee]] included [[Ruth Sachter]], [[Stu Hellinger]], [[Ben Yalow]], and...
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A [[bid]] to host the [[1986 Worldcon]] in [[New York]].  Members of the [[bid committee]] included [[Ruth Sachter]], [[Stu Hellinger]] and [[Ben Yalow]].  
  
 
The NY in '86 bid parties featured egg creams, a [[New York]] beverage which, everyone noted, included neither eggs nor cream.
 
The NY in '86 bid parties featured egg creams, a [[New York]] beverage which, everyone noted, included neither eggs nor cream.
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They lost to [[Atlanta in '86]] in a field which also included [[Philadelphia in '86]].  See [[1986 Worldcon Site Selection]] for details.
 
They lost to [[Atlanta in '86]] in a field which also included [[Philadelphia in '86]].  See [[1986 Worldcon Site Selection]] for details.
  
As of early 1980, the committee included [[Brian Burley]], [[Sue-Rae Rosenfeld]], [[Ben Yalow]], [[Larry Carmody]], [[Lise Eisenberg]], [[Gary Farber]], [[Moshe Feder]], [[Devra Langasm]], [[Elyse Rosenstein]], [[Steve Rosenstein]], [[Art Saha]], [[Kate Schafer]], [[Stu Shiffman]], [[Elliott Shorter]]. In late 1981, the Coordinator was [[Devra Langsan]], Secretary [[Teresa Minambres]], Members at Large of the Executive Committee, [[Moshe Feder]], [[Genny Dazzo]] and [[Steve Rosenstein]].
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As of early 1980, the committee included [[Brian Burley]], [[Sue-Rae Rosenfeld]], [[Ben Yalow]], [[Larry Carmody]], [[Lise Eisenberg]], [[Gary Farber]], [[Moshe Feder]], [[Devra Langsam]], [[Elyse Rosenstein]], [[Steve Rosenstein]], [[Art Saha]], [[Kate Schafer]], [[Stu Shiffman]], [[Elliot Shorter]]. In late 1981, the Coordinator was [[Devra Langsam]], Secretary [[Teresa Minambres]], Members at Large of the Executive Committee, [[Moshe Feder]], [[Genny Dazzo]] and [[Steve Rosenstein]].
  
 
The New York bid was plagued by [[fannish]] worries that New York was not a safe place to visit. (This was near the peak of the murder rate in big cities, and even [[filk songs]] had Central Park as the former site of Mordor.) Astonishingly, the New York bid published statistics ''proving'' that Atlanta was more dangerous. While this was arguably true, it was astonishingly bad bidding because all it did was reinforce fans' perception of big cities as dangerous, and of them New York -- of course -- was worst.  See the letter from [[Seth Briedbart]] in {{file770 | issue=47 | page=12}}, for an example.  [[Joe Celko]], an [[Atlanta in '86]] supporter, replied in {{file770 | issue=48}} p20, showing that the bad judgment was not New York's alone.
 
The New York bid was plagued by [[fannish]] worries that New York was not a safe place to visit. (This was near the peak of the murder rate in big cities, and even [[filk songs]] had Central Park as the former site of Mordor.) Astonishingly, the New York bid published statistics ''proving'' that Atlanta was more dangerous. While this was arguably true, it was astonishingly bad bidding because all it did was reinforce fans' perception of big cities as dangerous, and of them New York -- of course -- was worst.  See the letter from [[Seth Briedbart]] in {{file770 | issue=47 | page=12}}, for an example.  [[Joe Celko]], an [[Atlanta in '86]] supporter, replied in {{file770 | issue=48}} p20, showing that the bad judgment was not New York's alone.

Latest revision as of 17:09, 12 September 2021

A bid to host the 1986 Worldcon in New York. Members of the bid committee included Ruth Sachter, Stu Hellinger and Ben Yalow.

The NY in '86 bid parties featured egg creams, a New York beverage which, everyone noted, included neither eggs nor cream.

They lost to Atlanta in '86 in a field which also included Philadelphia in '86. See 1986 Worldcon Site Selection for details.

As of early 1980, the committee included Brian Burley, Sue-Rae Rosenfeld, Ben Yalow, Larry Carmody, Lise Eisenberg, Gary Farber, Moshe Feder, Devra Langsam, Elyse Rosenstein, Steve Rosenstein, Art Saha, Kate Schafer, Stu Shiffman, Elliot Shorter. In late 1981, the Coordinator was Devra Langsam, Secretary Teresa Minambres, Members at Large of the Executive Committee, Moshe Feder, Genny Dazzo and Steve Rosenstein.

The New York bid was plagued by fannish worries that New York was not a safe place to visit. (This was near the peak of the murder rate in big cities, and even filk songs had Central Park as the former site of Mordor.) Astonishingly, the New York bid published statistics proving that Atlanta was more dangerous. While this was arguably true, it was astonishingly bad bidding because all it did was reinforce fans' perception of big cities as dangerous, and of them New York -- of course -- was worst. See the letter from Seth Briedbart in File 770 47, p. 12, for an example. Joe Celko, an Atlanta in '86 supporter, replied in File 770 48, p. 2 p20, showing that the bad judgment was not New York's alone.


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